Deep sleep dreams12/7/2023 ![]() ![]() Its like taking the batteries out of a digital watch for an hour and expecting the time to be right when you put them back in. My understanding is that dreams themselves are recorded to short term memory (ergo its not surprising they carry over throughout a night), and the time between dreams isnt really recorded at all on a conscious level, so it doesnt really make sense to expect to have a conscious record of time between dreams. I dont doubt that it seems like your dream is constant, and lasts all night, but that doesnt really mean anything because of how differently your brain records memories and time during sleep. An anecdote, and not a particularly convincing one. Aside from that, though, your anecdote is, well, exactly that. Well, youre not wrong about dreams occurring outside of REM sleep with the caveat that non REM dreams are supposedly less vivid and less frequent, according to a cursory google search (news to me, but i concede the point). Timing when you wake up, as others have suggested, might be a good idea. Others in this thread have said that awakening during a dream is disruptive to sleep. Dreams don't make you tired, but spending too much time in REM sleep, the dreaming stage, will. In a sentence, having this disorder means that I experience too much REM sleep for my body to have a proper, restful slumber. I have a sleep disorder called narcolepsy. ![]() Sometimes the dreams even start before I am fully asleep. ![]() If I sleep for 5 mins I go right into a vivid dream. I can sleep for 8-10 and still I'm exhausted all day. I'm not diagnosing you or suggesting you have this disorder. I'm going to talk about a specific sleep disorder that relates to your question, and my experiences from having that disorder. But keep in mind, little is understood about sleep. I'll do my best to give what I think is one right answer because this question hits close to home for me. There's some misinformation in this thread. Just start the dosage low to make sure there is a positive result, since high serotonin levels can actually be dangerous. There is a lot of dispute about whether serotonin is a root cause of depression, and 5HTP doesn't work for some people, but it's cheap and it can't hurt to try it. Taking it may encourage your body to increase serotonin. In the short term, I would try 5HTP from a health food store since it is a precursor to serotonin, which is a key part of regulating your mood and sleep. I would check those things first, and if that's not it, get checked out for depression, as the medications for it tend to "fix" some of your neurotransmitters, with varying success. All of this indicates a disrupted sleep architecture and you are probably not getting the benefit of a full night's rest. Also, substances like alcohol, sleeping pills, kava, and other GABA agonists do tend to put the body into a sound sleep early on, but leads to rebound REM sleep after several hours when the body has metabolized most of those substances. An overactive cholinergic system could be from depression (the most likely cause), nicotine, foods you are eating, or prescribed drugs. If you have a lot of REM sleep, it sounds like your aminergic/cholinergic system, which regulates neurotransmitters, is out of balance. ![]()
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